Rolling Stones Bassist Darryl Jones Ntawm New Documentary 'Hauv Ntshav'

Yuav luag 30 xyoo, Chicago-yug bassist Darryl Jones tau sau thiab ncig xyuas nrog Rolling Stones, coj mus rau Bill Wyman thaum nws so haujlwm tom qab kev sib tw xyoo 1993.

Nws tsuas yog ib feem ntawm txoj kev ua haujlwm tshwj xeeb uas tau pom cov bassist ua haujlwm nrog legendary trumpeter Miles Davis, uas nws tau tshwm sim ntawm ob lub studio albums, thiab nrog rau jazz zoo Branford Marsalis, Kenny Kirkland thiab Omar Hakim hauv Sting thawj zaug solo band, ntxiv rau. ncig xyuas nrog cov kws ua yeeb yam zoo li Madonna thiab Peter Gabriel.

Cov ntaub ntawv tshiab Darryl Jones: Hauv Ntshav taug qab tus bassist qhov kev tshawb pom thiab nrhiav cov suab paj nruag. Nws yog ib zaj dab neeg txhawb siab qhov twg sab qab teb ntawm Chicago ob leeg ua tus cwj pwm, tsis yog qhov chaw xwb, nrog Jones 'kev cuam tshuam rau suab paj nruag los ntawm pej xeem lub tsev kawm ntawv looming loj.

Zaj yeeb yaj kiab tshiab, nthuav tawm los ntawm Greenwich Entertainment thiab muaj tam sim no mus xauj los yog yuav los ntawm cov kev pabcuam streaming xws li Vudu, Prime thiab Apple TV, cim thawj thawj zaug ntawm Eric Hamburg, uas, los ntawm keeb kwm kev nom kev tswv, tau ua haujlwm nrog tus thawj coj Oliver Stone ua tus tsim tawm ntawm cov yeeb yaj kiab zoo li Txhua Hnub Sunday Muab.

Thaum lub sijhawm ua yeeb yam tsis ntev los no ntawm Chicago's ShowPlace ICON Theatre thiab Chav Ua Noj ntawm Roosevelt Collection, Jones zaum nrog Hamburg, koom nrog Q&A tom qab kev tshuaj ntsuam xyuas qhov uas nws tau hais txog qhov tseem ceeb ntawm kev loj hlob hauv "ob tsev neeg hauv xov tooj cua," ib qho uas nws txiv, tus kws ntaus nkauj jazz, nthuav tawm nws rau Chicago xov tooj cua xws li WVON, WBEE thiab WBEZ thaum nws niam xaiv rau cov kws ua yeeb yam zoo li James Brown.

Cov yeeb yaj kiab tshiab nthuav tawm cov kev sib tham dav dav nrog Rolling Stones bandmates Mick Jagger, Keith Richards thiab Ronnie Wood nrog rau qee cov lus sau tseg zaum kawg los ntawm tus ntaus nruas Charlie Watts ua ntej nws tuag thaum lub caij ntuj sov 2021.

Cov ntaub ntawv sau tseg Jones zaj dab neeg txog tam sim no thaum nws tuav nws lub luag haujlwm tshiab ua tus thawj coj ntawm Darryl Jones Project, tackling cov ntsiab lus xws li zej zog, kev hlub thiab lub neej ntawm kev taug kev zoo li nws qhov kawg nkaus "American Dream."

"Kuv tau ua hauj lwm nyob rau hauv ib lub album rau ntau xyoo tshaj li kuv mob siab lees txais," tso dag tus bassist. “Tab sis peb tsuas yog yuav pib tso suab paj nruag. 'American Dream' yog zaj nkauj uas ua yeeb yaj kiab kawg. Thiab peb tsuas yog mus txuas ntxiv tso tawm cov nkauj. 'Nyob hauv cov ntshav' Kuv yuav tso rau qee lub sijhawm. Ib qho ntxiv, 'Games of Chance,' yog ib zaj nkauj uas peb ua si thaum lub sijhawm rov ua yeeb yaj kiab [scene hauv zaj duab xis] thiab kuv yuav tso tawm qhov ntawd," nws piav qhia. "Kuv vam tias peb tau ua ib zaj yeeb yaj kiab uas cov tub ntxhais hluas tuaj yeem pom thiab vam tias nws txhawb lawv lub neej txhua qhov uas lawv tau txiav txim siab mus nrhiav. Kuv vam tias nws yog kev tshoov siab rau cov neeg hluas thiab laus. "

Kuv tham nrog Darryl Jones txog qhov tseem ceeb ntawm cov suab paj nruag hauv chav kawm, qhov cuam tshuam ntawm lub nroog Chicago ntawm nws qhov kev ua si, kev cuam tshuam ntawm Keith Richards '1988 debut solo album. Tham pheej yig, zoo sib xws ntawm Richards thiab Miles Davis thiab zaj dab neeg ntawm lub plawv Hauv Ntshav. Ib daim ntawv teev npe ntawm peb cov video hu, maj mam kho kom ntev thiab meej, raws li hauv qab no.

Nws zoo li cas rau koj tuaj yeem ua yeeb yaj kiab hauv tsev hauv Chicago pem hauv ntej ntawm koj tsev neeg thiab cov phooj ywg zoo li koj tau ua?

DARRYL JONES: Ua tau zoo heev. Cov lus nug thiab lus teb los ntawm chav tsev - ntau tus uas yog phooj ywg ntawm kuv - yog ob qho tib si txav thiab lom zem. Thiab nws tsuas yog ua tau zoo nyob hauv tsev. Kuv hlub Chicago. Kuv yog ib tug lifer, koj puas paub?

Ib qho uas ua rau kuv txaus siab txog koj zaj dab neeg txawm tias ua ntej qhov documentary yog txoj kev uas koj muaj suab paj nruag los ntawm cov tub ntxhais hluas hauv tsev kawm ntawv ntawm Chicago Vocational High School. Vim tias koj saib ib puag ncig niaj hnub no thiab nws ib txwm yog ib qho ntawm thawj yam uas tau txiav los ntawm Asmeskas cov ntaub ntawv kawm - kos duab thiab suab paj nruag. Qhov tseem ceeb npaum li cas rau koj tus kheej thiab dab tsi yog qhov txiaj ntsig ntawm qhov muaj nyob hauv chav kawm rau cov menyuam feem ntau?

Jones: Kuv tsis tuaj yeem xav txog ib yam dab tsi uas muaj txiaj ntsig zoo rau kuv tau ua tiav raws li tus kws ntaus suab paj nruag tshaj li lub tsev kawm ntawv suab paj nruag. Thiab lub tsev kawm ntawv tshwj xeeb no tsuas yog lub taub hau thiab lub xub pwg nyom saum cov suab paj nruag hauv ntau lub tsev kawm ntawv. Koj tham txog kev ua yeeb yam thiab kos duab, nws yog ib lub tsev kawm ua yeeb yam loj. Yog li kuv tau txais peb thiab ib nrab, plaub xyoos ntawm kev paub ua haujlwm hauv kuv lub tsev kawm ntawv theem siab orchestra. Yog li ntawd nws yog invaluable.

Kuv tau nyeem me ntsis txog kev tshawb fawb uas qhia tias cov menyuam yaus noj suab paj nruag pab txhua yam ntawm thaj chaw sab nraud ntawm kev lag luam suab paj nruag. Nws pab nrog kev tsim pab pawg, ua haujlwm hauv pab pawg, lej thiab qee yam ntawm kev xav zoo. Kuv xav tias nws yog ib qho yuam kev loj heev rau lub hwj chim uas yog coj suab paj nruag tawm ntawm cov tsev kawm ntawv pej xeem. Nws yog ib qho cuab yeej tseem ceeb rau leej twg.

In zaj duab xis, Omar Hakim credits koj ua si rau Chicago. Nws hais tias "Cov tub hluas kawm ua bass thaj tsam ... Qhov ntawd yog ntses bass thaj tsam." Charlie Watts zoo li hits ntawm lub tswvyim ntawd thiab. Koj yuav hais li cas lub nroog Chicago qhia koj qhov kev ua si?

Jones: Koj tuaj rau hauv ib lub suab paj nruag scene uas cov laus ntaus suab paj nruag yog twv yuav raug hu tawm tswv yim txog koj lub peev xwm. Yog tias koj tsis npog qee yam uas lawv xav tias koj yuav tsum npog, koj tau hu rau nws.

Thiab muaj hom keeb kwm ntawm cov ntses bass thaj tsam mus los ntawm cov neeg zoo li Eldee Young. Tag nrho cov no ua si nrog Ramsey Lewis. Cov txiv neej uas tawm hauv ntiaj teb, Cua & Hluav Taws. Kuv xav tias muaj yuav luag zoo li lub tsev kawm ntawv ntawm ntses bass thaj tsam. Kuv tsis tau xav txog qhov ntawd ua ntej. Tab sis hom ntawm lub tsev kawm ntawv ntawm ntses bass thaj tsam uas koj npog dab tsi yuav tsum tau them thiab koj ua nws nyob rau hauv ib tug artful txoj kev.

Yog li kuv xav tias qhov ntawd yog qhov ua haujlwm ntawm Chicago scene rau bassists.

Qhov tseem ceeb ntawm kev mloog yog lub tswv yim uas tshwm sim hauv zaj duab xis ntau. Nws tseem ceeb npaum li cas rau txhua yam uas koj ua?

Jones: Kuv xav tias nws kuj yog ib qho tseem ceeb heev. Yuav kom ua tau zoo nrog cov neeg ntaus suab paj nruag, koj yuav tsum mloog thiab ua tib zoo mloog lawv ua si. Lwm yam tshaj li qhov tseeb ntawm lub cev ntawm kev ua si ib qho cuab yeej, tsis muaj dab tsi tseem ceeb tshaj li kev mloog ob leeg rau koj tus kheej thiab txiav txim siab txog yam koj yuav tsum tau ua kom zoo dua thiab ua si hauv ib pawg. Cov no yog cov tseem ceeb tshaj plaws. Nws yog txoj hauv kev zoo tshaj plaws los qhia koj tus kheej kom nkag siab txog tus tswv thiab cov khoom zoo li ntawd.

Dua li ntawm qhov yooj yim mechanics ntawm kev ua si ib qho cuab yeej, kuv xav tias kev mloog yog qhov tseem ceeb tshaj plaws.

Mloog tau nquag nyob rau hauv Hauv Ntshav. Tab sis, hais txog koj qhov kev paub nrog Miles Davis, koj kuj hais txog qhov tseem ceeb ntawm kev saib. Nyob rau hauv zaj duab xis, Keith hu koj "tus weaver thib peb." Yog li kuv xav paub, thaum koj pom koj tus kheej nyob rau theem ntawm lub sijhawm ntawd, txoj hauv kev yog dab tsi, nws puas yog ob qho tib si mloog thiab saib lossis tseem ceeb dua?

Jones: Nws yog qhov nthuav. Vim saib pab koj mloog zoo dua. Koj tsuas yog muab kev txhawb zog ntxiv thiab cov ntaub ntawv ntau ntxiv uas koj tuaj yeem siv los ua cov nkauj zoo dua - uas yog qhov koj xav ua thaum kawg. Yog li, kuv xav tias ob qho tib si muaj tseeb.

Kuv hnov ​​koj hais tias Keith's Tham pheej yig album hloov koj txoj kev xav ntawm dab tsi pob zeb thiab yob tuaj yeem ua tau. Dab tsi yog qhov kev nkag siab thiab dab tsi tau pab nws ua?

Jones: Zoo, Kuv xav tias tej zaum kuv thawj [kev xav] yog Elvis Presley. Thiab nws yuav yog Elvis ua ntej. Lub Elvis uas nyob hauv TV, "Viva Las Vegas." Cov yeeb yaj kiab. Qhov ntawd yog qhov kuv pom zoo li pob zeb thiab yob. Kuv tseem tsis tau rov qab los thiab mloog cov neeg nyiam Chuck Berry thiab Little Richard. Yog li ntawd yog kuv lub tswv yim ntawm nws.

Tham pheej yig… Kuv xav tias nws yog funky rau kuv. Thiab qhov ntawd yog ib yam uas kuv tau nyob hauv. Yog li ntawd, nws yog ib txoj hauv kev rau kuv los cuam tshuam nrog nws ntawm lwm txoj kev. Kuv txhais tau tias, Bootsy Collins nyob rau hauv cov ntaub ntawv ntawd. Yog li kuv xav tias nws nyob hauv cov ntaub ntawv ntawd thiab nws tau ua dab tsi. Thiab ces Charley Drayton thiab Steve Jordan, lawv txoj kev mus rau lub pob zeb thiab yob khoom.

Pob zeb thiab yob ib txwm yog funky. Tab sis kuv twv rau qee qhov laj thawj - tej zaum kuv cov phooj ywg tau koom nrog nws thiab txoj hauv kev uas nws tsuas yog hloov pauv me ntsis txawv - nws tau tig rau kuv tiag tiag. Thiab kuv xav tias, "Tus txiv neej… Kuv yeej khawb qhov kev taw qhia tshwj xeeb."

Thiab nws yog qhov tseeb Keith, keeb kwm, uas kuv xav ua si nrog.

Koj hais hauv zaj yeeb yaj kiab hais txog kev sib raug zoo uas Keith thiab Miles muaj. Txawm hais tias nyob rau hauv ntau txoj kev, tseem muaj cov nyiaj laus rau kev txhim kho uas lawv sib koom. Dab tsi yog qee txoj hauv kev uas lawv mus rau qhov zoo sib xws?

Jones: Zoo, tsis muaj dab tsi tshwm sim, rau lawv, tsis muaj qhov no yog cov ntses bass thaj tsam tiag tiag.

Koj hnov ​​Keith tham txog qhov ntawd hauv zaj duab xis. Thiab Miles yog tib txoj kev. Nws hais rau kuv ib zaug, nws hais tias, "Darryl, rau kuv, yog tias kuv tsuas yog sawv ntawm qhov ntawd thiab tos kom txog thaum pawg ntseeg kaw, nws yuav luag zoo li kuv tuaj yeem ua si txhua yam thiab nws yuav ua haujlwm." Thiab tib yam zoo ib yam li Keith hais hauv zaj yeeb yaj kiab: "Yog hais tias lub suab sib dhos yog qhov ruaj khov, ces kuv tuaj yeem jab thiab joust thiab ua txhua yam ntawm cov suab paj nruag saum toj no."

Thiab qhov ntawd yog vim li cas nws yog Keith Richards, koj puas paub? Nws tuaj yeem caij solo zoo thaum nws xav tau tab sis nws tsuas yog qhov kev sib txuas mus rau lub suab zoo tiag tiag. Kuv xav tias lawv qhia nws.

Omar Hakim kuj hais txog hauv zaj duab xis tias nws paub tias koj yuav groove nrog Charlie Watts. Nkag mus rau qhov kev sib tw thawj zaug, koj taug kev hauv thiab pib sim me ntsis James Brown - thiab txhua tus neeg tsuas yog poob rau hauv nws. Ua li cas sai sai koj xav tias groove nrog nws? Nws muaj zog npaum li cas txawm tias thawj zaug koj ua si ua ke?

Jones: Kuv xav tias zoo li nws yog ib tus neeg ntaus nruas thiab khov kho. Yog li ntawd nws yooj yim rau kuv lob mus. Thaum tib neeg nug, "Nws tshwm sim sai npaum li cas?" Nws yuav luag tam sim ntawd. Nrog cov kws ntaus nkauj uas muaj kev nkag siab yooj yim ntawm qhov ntawd, nws yuav siv sijhawm sijhawm. Tab sis, nrog rau qhov ntawd, kuv tau kawm dhau sij hawm yuav ua li cas ua si nrog Charlie zoo dua thiab zoo dua. Thiab kuv xav tias, ua kom ncaj ncees, nws txuas ntxiv tau zoo dua los ntawm kev ncig xyuas zaum kawg uas peb tau ua. Kuv xav tias qhov ntau uas peb ua si ua ke, qhov ntau nws zoo ntawm solidified thiab ntau peb tsim peb tus kheej yam.

Nws yog qhov nthuav tiag tiag - yog tias koj saib rov qab ntawm tus ntaus nruas thiab cov ntses bass thaj tsam ua ke uas muaj nyob hauv cov suab paj nruag nrov, nws yog qhov tseeb tiag. Qhov kev sib dhos ntawm kuv nrog tus ntaus nruas Al Foster piv rau kuv nrog Vince Wilburn lossis kuv nrog Rick Wellman hauv Miles band, peb txhua tus tsim ib yam dab tsi uas txawv heev. Ib yam li James Jamerson thiab cov neeg ntaus nruas uas nyob hauv pawg ntawd [Cov Kwv Tij Funk] thiab Cov Neeg Ua Haujlwm Wrecking lossis Cov Menyuam Yaus, txhua tus neeg ntaus ntses bass thaj tsam / tus ntaus nruas sib txuas tsim ib qho tshwj xeeb heev.

Thiab kuv zoo siab heev rau qhov uas Charlie thiab kuv tau ua dhau los ze li 30 xyoo uas peb ua si ua ke.

Txog qhov kawg, pom tseeb tsis muaj leej twg tuaj yeem sau Charlie's nkawm khau. Tab sis Steve Jordan yog ze ze, tiag tiag, rau cov pab pawg ntawd ntau txoj hauv kev raws li leej twg tuaj yeem tau txais. Thiab koj rov qab mus ntev nrog nws. Tshwj xeeb tshaj yog nyob rau xyoo tas los no, nws tau zoo li kev kaw nrog nws li cas thiab txhim kho tus neeg ntaus ntses bass thaj tsam tshiab / tus ntaus nruas txuas ntxiv raws li Pob Zeb txuas ntxiv mus?

Jones: Zoo heev. Kuv xav tias Steve tuaj rau hauv, nws yog ib tug tub kawm ntawv ntawm cov suab paj nruag no. Thiab nws yeej tau mloog zoo heev. Kuv twv kuv ua thiab. Txij lub sij hawm, koj rov qab mus siv cov suab paj nruag qub nrog Pob Zeb. Thiab qee zaum koj coj tej yam uas nws nyiam, “Auj. Kuv tsis paub tias ua ntej… ” Steve zoo heev li ntawd. Nws yeej tau mloog cov yeeb yaj kiab nyob thiab mloog cov ntaub ntawv qub. Thiab peb tsuas yog ib txwm zoo li tinkering ntawm qhov ntawd.

Nws thiab kuv, kuv xav tias peb ua tau ib txoj hauj lwm zoo heev ntawm thawj qhov kev ncig xyuas hauv Tebchaws Meskas. Nws tau zoo dua ntawm kev ncig xyuas zaum kawg hauv Tebchaws Europe. Thiab kuv xav tias nws yuav ua li ntawd mus ntxiv.

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Thiab ntau heev vim nws zoo li yog ib tug tshiab ntxiv rau band, kuv kuj tau saib rov qab thiab yeej sim ua tej yam thiab yeej sim los mus rau qhov zoo tshaj plaws yam uas peb tuaj yeem tuaj.

Nws ua si zoo nrog nws. Nws tsuas yog ib tug kws ntaus nkauj zoo kawg nkaus. Xav txog kev ua si James Brown nrog Steve, koj puas paub? Nws zoo heev. Vim nws yeej nkag siab thiab paub txog cov suab paj nruag ntawd thiab cov hais mav ua dab tsi.

Raws li cov suab paj nruag nyob tau txuas ntxiv rov qab mus rau xyoo tas los, nws tseem ceeb npaum li cas lub luag haujlwm nws ua rau kev sib txuas ntawm tib neeg thiab coj tib neeg los ua ke?

Jones: Kuv xav tias nws tuaj yeem yog peb qhov kawg, kev cia siab zoo tshaj plaws. Koj hais tau dab tsi?

Koj xav txog vim li cas cov kiv cua Stones yog cov kiv cua siab heev… Zoo, nws yog vim tias thaum lub sijhawm koj txoj kev loj hlob, koj cov tub ntxhais hluas thiab cov neeg laus thaum ntxov, nws yuav luag zoo li lub suab paj nruag ntawm lub sijhawm ntawd tau sau rau ntawm koj cov DNA hauv ib txoj kev. Yog li koj coj nws nrog koj thaum koj loj tuaj thiab nws ua rau koj nco txog tej yam zoo.

Pob zeb suab paj nruag, muaj ntau yam uas nws ua rau neeg nco txog lossis coj los rau hauv siab. Zoo li kuv, hauv South America, Lub Pob Zeb yog qee yam txuas nrog kev hloov pauv lossis tib neeg tso lawv tus kheej. Nws tseem txuas nrog lub sijhawm zoo.

Yog li kuv xav tias nws yuav yog ib yam uas muaj hwj chim tiag tiag uas coj tib neeg los ua ke. Thiab tiag tiag ua rau tib neeg nco ntsoov tias tuaj yeem muaj kev sib koom ua ke hauv zej zog.

Nws yog ib qho ntawm cov khoom uas tsis muaj teeb meem dab tsi koj koom nrog, peb muab cov suab paj nruag. Kuv xav tias yog ib qho zoo heev.