Jim Kerr Ntawm New Simple Minds Album 'Kev Taw Qhia Ntawm Lub Plawv,' Ua Kom Zoo

Nrog cov suab paj nruag nyob ntawm lub rooj tau ze li ob xyoos, lub sijhawm ntawm kev cais tawm ntxov thaum muaj kev sib kis tau dhau los ua lub sijhawm muaj tswv yim rau Yooj Yim Li Frontman Jim Kerr, uas tau teeb tsa ua haujlwm ntawm pab pawg 19th studio album Kev taw qhia ntawm lub plawv. Sau nyob rau hauv Sicily nrog co-founding guitarist Charlie Burchill, khub crafted ib phau ntawm kaum ib zaj nkauj tshiab.

Kerr hais tias "Kuv xav tias tsis muaj kev cuam tshuam, kuv xav tias muaj ib theem ntawm kev cog lus hauv cov ntaub ntawv," Kerr hais. “Thiab peb tau ncaws lub log tsheb ntau dua li tej zaum peb muaj yav dhau los. Thaum txhua yam pib suab zoo, zoo li, 'Zoo, peb yuav ua li cas thiaj ua tau zoo?' Thiab koj tsis tas yuav tso koj tus kheej los ntawm qhov ntawd. Puas yog peb ua tau zoo los tsis? Lwm tus neeg tuaj yeem txiav txim. Lwm tus yuav txiav txim! Tab sis nws coj kev cog lus rau cov ntaub ntawv uas kuv xav tias cov suab paj nruag tau txais txiaj ntsig los ntawm. "

Tus tshiab album daim duab npog nta qhov sib txuas ntawm lub npog ntsej muag roj teeb tawm tsam cov paj, nrhiav kev zoo nkauj txawm tias tsis paub tseeb. Cov nkauj tshiab qhia txog qhov ntawd, tswj kev nkag siab ntawm kev cia siab txawm tias muaj xwm txheej los ntawm qhov twg Kev taw qhia ntawm lub plawv twb yug los.

Ntxiv nrog rau cov lem tshiab, ob peb tau ncaws tawm ib ncig me ntsis. "Txoj Cai Kev Hlub" yog thawj zaj nkauj Simple Minds tau ua nyob, nrhiav lub tsev ntawm cov nkauj tshiab uas txuas ua ke 45 xyoo ntawm Simple Minds keeb kwm.

Kerr hais tias "Yog tias koj nyiam Simple Minds, yog tias koj nyiam yam ntawd, peb twv tau hais tias cov ntaub ntawv yog nyob rau hauv qhov chaw qab zib, qhov twg peb tau tswj hwm, Kuv xav tias, ua rau cov hnub dhau los," Kerr hais. "Koj tsis tuaj yeem rov qab mus - qhov ntawd yog thaum ntawd, qhov no yog tam sim no - tab sis qee yam koj tuaj yeem ua rau thiab sib yuav rau qhov kev paub, vam tias, qee yam kev txawj ntse lossis qee qhov kev xav uas peb muaj tam sim no, nrog rau cov nkauj hais txog qhov yuav mus. nyob rau hauv keeb kwm yav dhau ntawm lub ntiaj teb tam sim no, "nws piav qhia. "Qhov ntawd suab qis me ntsis ... Tab sis qhov ntawd yog qhov peb xav kom tib neeg xav."

Kuv tau tham nrog Jim Kerr txog qhov kev cia siab uas qhia Kev taw qhia ntawm lub plawv (tam sim no muaj ntawm BMG nyob rau hauv ib txwm thiab deluxe hom ntawm CD, yas los yog cassette thiab ntawm streaming cov kev pab cuam), rov qab mus rau theem tom qab ib tug ob xyoos layoff thiab 45 xyoo ntawm Simple Minds. Ib daim ntawv teev lus ntawm peb lub xov tooj sib tham, maj mam kho kom ntev thiab meej, raws li hauv qab no.

Yog li kuv xav paub ncua sijhawm ntawm no - Kuv paub tias koj thiab Charlie tuaj yeem sib koom ua ke thiab ua haujlwm ua ke hauv Sicily. Thiab kuv paub tias ob peb zaj nkauj no tau raug ncaws tawm ib pliag. Puas yog tus so tau sau ntawv thaum lub sijhawm cais tawm?

JIM KERR: Txoj kev uas peb ua haujlwm, nws tsis ntau npaum li peb sau rau ib qho album. Thaum peb tsis mus ncig, peb ib txwm sau ntawv. Thiab tom qab ntawd thaum nws los txog lub sijhawm album, peb saib hauv lub vaults thiab peb hais tias, "Peb yuav ua li cas sau ntawv? Puas yog nws yuav yog ib daim ntawv tsis txaus siab? Puas yog nws yuav yog cov ntaub ntawv sib dhos? Los yog nws yuav ua tau ntau dua electro? Obviously, qhov tseem ceeb tseem yog cov suab paj nruag. Tab sis, raws li huab cua thiab khoom, peb yuav zoo li mus, "Qhov no. Qhov ntawd."

Ib qho lus teb ncaj qha rau koj cov lus nug yog tej zaum txog ib nrab ntawm cov nkauj tiag tiag pib ua kom zoo thaum lub sijhawm sau cia, qhov uas yuav muaj li peb lossis plaub uas tau ncaws tawm ib ncig ntawm qee lub sijhawm tos lawv lub sijhawm. Peb pom tias nws ntxim nyiam heev qee zaum yuav ua li cas ib zaj nkauj pom nws lub sijhawm - lossis tsis yog.

Ib lub ntsiab lus kuv xav tias kuv khaws los mloog Kev taw qhia ntawm lub plawv yog tias kev hlub muaj peev xwm kov yeej txhua yam. Nws yeej zoo li ncaws tawm album hauv "Vision Thing." Puas yog qhov tseeb hais tias?

JK: Nws suab corny. Thiab koj xav txaj muag deb ntawm hais tias. Tab sis kuv twv nws yog. Txawm tias qhov kev taug qab ntawm album uas peb tau sau thaum peb muaj 18 xyoo: "Kev Hlub." Qhov ntawd yog qhov tseem ceeb ntawm qhov peb ua. Nyob ntawd. Tsis muaj ntau txoj hauv kev los piav qhia nws, tab sis tsis muaj txoj hauv kev tseeb. Nws yog ib txoj hauj lwm. Nws yog kev mob siab rau. Peb tau raug Vajtswv foom koob hmoov kom muaj lub neej no hauv suab paj nruag, hauv suab paj nruag. Thiab kuv xav tias ua ke nrog - tsis yog ntau lub hnub ci tab sis peb yug los ua qhov zoo. Koj yuav tsum yog kuv xav ua suab paj nruag - lossis ua suab paj nruag thiab xav tias leej twg yuav mob siab rau nws sab nraud ntawm koj. Thiab qhov ntawd yog qhov uas peb tau siv peb lub neej.

Kuv sawv ntxov txhua tag kis sawv ntxov xav tias, "Qhov no yog qhov zoo, tsuas yog ciaj sia." Kuv tsis paub meej txog ib nrab hnub! Tab sis qhov ntawd yog kuv tus cwj pwm. Thiab kuv yuav tsum hais, cov suab paj nruag kuv tau ua haujlwm nrog los ntawm cov txiv neej, nws zoo li phim kuv xav. Muaj kev xyiv fab nyob rau hauv tej zaj nkauj no txawm tsis muaj lo lus. Thiab nws yog ntau lo lus nug ntawm kev sim ua kom phim cov lus rau qhov kuv xav tias yuav mus rau ntawd.

Koj hais qhov optimism ntawd. Nws nyob ntawd hauv "Thawj koj dhia" - lub tswv yim ntawm kev kov yeej lub sijhawm vwm no. Obviously, lub album tau yug los ntawm qhov tsis paub txog kev nom kev tswv thiab kev sib kis thiab txhua yam ntawm no. Tab sis nws tseem hits qhov optimistic chord. Qhov ntawd tseem ceeb npaum li cas?

JK: Zoo, Kuv tau luag vim tias kab - thiab nws zoo li tau dhau los ua ntau dua - tab sis kab uas peb tau pab txhawb rau kev tshaj tawm xov xwm, kab kawg yog, "Peb tau sim ua cov ntaub ntawv zoo nyob rau lub sijhawm phem tshaj plaws. ” Kuv paub tom qab ntawd nws suab zoo li ib yam dab tsi Mel Brooks yuav sau. Tab sis qhov ntawd yog qhov tau mus rau ntawd.

Qhov ntawd yog lub siab zoo nkauj, qhov kev paub ntawm cov xyoo [quarantine] xyoo. Txawm tias tam sim no, saib rov qab - txawm tias nws tseem nyob hauv huab cua - nws nyuaj rau xav txog qee yam ntawm cov khoom ntawd mus. Tab sis nws ua tau. Kuv nyiam qhov kev sib tham uas koj mus, "Yog, tab sis dab tsi yog qhov zoo ntawm nws?" Vim peb txhua tus paub tej yam phem. Yuav ua li cas txog tej yam zoo?

Thaum peb muaj 18 thiab 19, txhua yam peb xav ua yog ua suab paj nruag. Peb yuav ua nws 24 teev ib hnub twg. Tsis muaj lwm yam hauv peb lub neej. Tsis muaj dab tsi poob. Nws yog tshuaj. Peb cia li xav nyob rau hauv ib chav rehearsal. Thiab yog tias peb muaj nyiaj los them rau chav rov hais dua, peb yuav nyob ntawd 24 teev ib hnub.

Ceev nrooj… Koj laus dua me ntsis. Koj tau txais ib co nyiaj thiab lub neej zoo. Puam hauv qab no. Thiab koj twb muaj luag num. Koj yuav tsum pom cov menyuam yaus. Thiab koj yuav tsum pom cov tub xeeb ntxwv. Koj yuav tsum pom koj tus broker. Koj tsuas yog tsis tau cog lus raws li koj tau ua. Leej twg hais tias lawv yog tus neeg dag.

Tab sis… qis qis thiab saib seb, thaum [tus kab mob kis thoob qhov txhia chaw] ncaws tawm, tsis muaj dab tsi ua ntxiv! Koj tseem tsis tau saib football! Nws zoo li, "Kuv xav tias peb yuav tsum mus ua haujlwm tom qab ntawd?" Hmoov zoo, nws yog ib txoj haujlwm uas peb nyiam. Nws yog qhov zoo uas muaj lub ntiaj teb no kom khiav mus rau hauv.

Muaj nkauj rau album tshiab uas qhia txog lub sijhawm. Ib qho uas zoo li ua li ntawd, tsawg kawg hauv lub npe, yog "Leej Twg Qhov Tseeb." Nws tseem ceeb npaum li cas los ntaus lub suab ntawd?

JK: Kuv xav tias nws yog ib lo lus zoo nkauj: leej twg tua qhov tseeb? Nws yuav luag Shakespearean los yog ib yam dab tsi. Kuv paub tias nws tau siv qee yam ntawm kev hais lus nom tswv. Thiab nws zoo li cov ntsiab lus ntawm dichotomy ntawm qhov chaw uas peb tau txais peb cov xov xwm niaj hnub no thiab koj tuaj yeem ntseeg dab tsi? Koj siv tau hais tias, "Nws yog tshav ntuj sab nraum." Thiab tib neeg yuav mus, "Yog nws yog." Thiab tam sim no neeg hais tias, “Kuv tsis paub… Koj xav li ntawd? Kuv xav tias txhua yam nyob ntawm ”…

Kev laus, Kuv pom nws li no - nws tsis yog ntau heev uas, "Hav, cov no yog cov nkauj nrog cov lus." Tej zaum nws yog zaj nkauj uas qhia txog cov lus nug uas nyob hauv huab cua los ntawm ntau tus neeg uas siv sijhawm xav txog tej yam no.

Koj hais tias "Kev Hlub. Thematically, nws haum tiag tiag nrog cov ntaub ntawv no. Thiab koj nyob zoo nkauj tiag tiag rau tus thawj version ntawm nws. Nws tsis yog radically reworked. Nyob rau hauv txoj kev weird, puas suav nrog cov nkauj zoo li khi ua ke 45 xyoo ntawm Simple Minds?

JK: Kuv xav tias nws ua. Nws tau ntxim hlub heev li uas tawm tuaj. "Txoj Cai Kev Hlub" yog thawj zaj nkauj uas peb tau ua nyob rau ntawm peb thawj zaug Simple Minds gig thaum Lub Ib Hlis 1978. Thaum tsis muaj leej twg paub peb. Peb taug kev mus rau theem mus rau lub suab ntawm peb tus kheej taw. Thiab Charlie ntaus riff ntawd. Kuv tsuas yog xav tias, "Peb mus deb… Peb mus deb ntawm no." Vim tias, txawm li ntawd los, nws suab zoo heev.

Ib xyoo tom qab, los ntawm lub sij hawm uas peb muaj ib daim ntawv cog lus, peb twb dhuav. Peb tau tsiv mus nyob. Thiab "Txoj Cai ntawm Kev Hlub" tau shunted. "Ah, peb yuav rov qab mus rau nws ib hnub." Tsawg thiab saib seb, ob peb xyoos dhau los, "Txoj Cai Kev Hlub" tau tshwm sim hauv online. Thiab nws yog DJ uas tau muab tso ua ke qhov khoom no nrog riff los ntawm zaj nkauj. Nws tsis yog ntau qhov uas nws ua tau zoo heev. Tab sis nws reintroduced lub riff rau peb. Thiab peb xav tias, "Lub sijhawm no yog lub sijhawm rov qab mus rau qhov no ..." Thiab nws tsis txawv heev. Txawm hais tias peb tuaj nrog, kuv xav tias, ib qho kev hu nkauj muaj zog dua. Thiab kuv xav xav tias nws yog tus kws sau nkauj ntau dua thiab lwm yam.

Tab sis muaj ib yam uas peb nyuam qhuav hnov ​​tias zaj nkauj tau pom nws lub sijhawm dua. Yog tias koj tau twv kuv peb xyoos dhau los uas yuav tshwm sim, kuv yuav tau hais tias nws yuav tsis tshwm sim. Tab sis ntau lub ntsiab lus ntawm peb zaj dab neeg tsuas yog zoo li nthuav tawm txoj kev uas lawv xav nthuav tawm.

Yuav ua li cas zoo li thaum kawg tau rov qab los ntawm theem ntawm cov kiv cua tiag tiag tom qab ob xyoos tso tawm?

JK: Mam li nco dheev, thaum nws rov qab los, txhua leej txhua tus tau sib cav txog qhov muaj thiab nws tau pom tias peb qhov kev ua si thawj zaug yog Wembley Arena - muag tawm Wembley Arena - tsis tau ua ib daim ntawv. Kuv xav tias peb muaj ob hnub rov xyaum ua dua. Kuv muaj ib teev. Thiab nws zoo li, peb yuav mus hais rau cov neeg tuaj saib, “Xov xwm zoo thiab xov xwm phem… Peb rov qab los! Xov xwm phem? Peb yuav xav tau koj hmo no!”

Tab sis nws tau ploj mus zoo li lub thawv hluav taws kub. Nws tsuas yog zoo heev. Thiab koj yeej xav tias nws. Muaj ib qho ntxiv zest rau kev hais plaub hauv ob peb lub hlis dhau los no.

Ib yam uas kuv pom tau tias kuv tau txais kev tso cai thaum nws mus deb yog txoj kev uas muaj suab paj nruag coj tib neeg los ua ke thiab txuas tib neeg. Kuv nco qhov ntawd. Lub luag haujlwm tseem ceeb npaum li cas rau kev ntaus suab paj nruag?

JK: Yog lawm. Tsuas muaj ob peb yam uas tib neeg sib sau ua ke zoo li ntawd. Koj mus rau qhov chaw ua kis las thiab ib sab yog qhov kev tsov rog no tiag tiag. Yog li ntawd tsis suav. Lub Koom Txoos? Zoo, peb nyob qhov twg, cov pawg ntseeg yog khoob. Tsis muaj leej twg mus qhov ntawd ntxiv lawm - thiab tsis muaj dab tsi cuam tshuam nrog COVID. Tab sis koj mus rau hauv thiab cov neeg no - ib yam dab tsi tshwm sim. Tej yam yeej tshwm sim.

Ua ntej tshaj plaws, thaum lub suab paj nruag pib, tib neeg hla qhov tshwm sim hauv lawv lub neej rau ob peb teev. Thiab nws tsis yog cliche. Koj pom nws hauv lub cev lus. Thaum tsaus ntuj, cov txiv neej laus tab tom sib khawm quaj vim koj ua si qee qhov tsis tshua muaj B-sab. Muaj ob peb yam uas yuav ua tau li ntawd.

Dab tsi yog qhov amazing tshaj plaws suab paj nruag.

XAV PAUB NTAU LOS RAU FORBESJim Kerr Ntawm Lub Siab Yooj Yim Ntawm Zaj Dab Neeg Tom Qab 'Tsis Txhob Nco Txog Kuv' Thiab New Simple Minds Music

Simple Minds yog yug los ntawm punk pob zeb. Thiab tsis muaj leej twg los ntawm lub ntiaj teb no tau saib ua ntej xav, "Puas yog qhov no tseem yuav yog ib yam hauv 45 xyoo?" Tab sis ntawm no koj nyob. Nws zoo li cas los xav txog Simple Minds hauv cov ntsiab lus no?

JK: Txhua yam tau hloov pauv. Thiab tseem, peb tau txais kev ncaws tawm ntawm kuj saib nws hloov pauv qhov twg tsis muaj dab tsi hloov pauv.

Punk pob zeb tsuas yog amazing. Nws tsoo cov phab ntsa. Dheev, cov lunatics tau nkag. Lawv muaj cov yuam sij rau lub pej thuam. Thiab qhov ntawd yeej tsis tau tshwm sim ua ntej - yeej tsis nyob hauv UK Lub tswv yim tias koj tuaj yeem ua koj tus kheej cov ntaub ntawv me me, tsim koj tus kheej pawg thiab sau koj cov nkauj thiab qee tus txiv neej tuaj yeem ua nws hauv xov tooj cua thiab qee tus neeg hauv New York yuav hnov ​​​​nws thiab caw. koj... Peb yog cov neeg muaj hmoo tshaj plaws nyob rau lub hnub nyoog ntawd thaum lub sijhawm no los txog.

Lub ntsiab ntawm qhov ntawd yog qhov khoom hauv tsev, uas koj tuaj yeem ua koj tus kheej - DIY. Zoo, 40 xyoo tom qab, Charlie thiab kuv nyob hauv ib chav [cov ntaub ntawv] thiab nws yog DIY. Nws nyob hauv pem teb ntsaws cov khoom, tsis muaj engineers. Tsis muaj cov neeg tsim khoom. Peb nyuam qhuav tau ua haujlwm nrog peb tus kheej lub tswv yim - ib yam li peb thaum peb muaj 18. Kuv yuav mus rau nws lub tsev lossis nws tuaj rau kuv. Thiab peb yuav zaum ntawd tsuas yog sim ua haujlwm tawm. Thiab peb zoo siab los ua qhov no.

Nws yog ib qho me ntsis ntawm kev hais tias peb yog punk pob zeb - tab sis peb tseem yog DIY ntau heev. Thiab qhov ntawd yog qhov peb ua haujlwm. Yog li, los ntawm qhov ntawd, tseem muaj kev sib txuas rau cov hauv paus hniav.

Tau qhov twg los: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimryan1/2022/10/21/jim-kerr-on-new-simple-minds-album-direction-of-the-heart-maintaining-optimism/