Jamie Bell Tham 'Cov Ntxhais Ci Ci' Thiab Vim Li Cas Nws Yuav Ua Rau Cov Neeg Tuaj Saib David Fincher Vibes

Qhov tseeb hloov kev tua neeg paub tsis meej yog lub tswv yim siab twv txiaj. Txawm li cas los xij, qhov ntawd tsis txwv lub tuam txhab xov xwm MRC thiab Leonardo DiCaprio's Appian Way Productions los ntawm kev yuav lub TV txoj cai rau tus sau Lauren Beukes ' Tus Ntxhais Ci Ntxuag txawm tias ua ntej nws ntaus ntawv hauv 2013.

Kev tsim khoom pib thaum lub Tsib Hlis 2021, thiab hnub Friday, Plaub Hlis 29, 2022, thawj ntu pib ntawm Apple
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TV + nrog cov yeeb yaj kiab uas khav theeb Elisabeth Moss thiab Jamie Bell ua tus thawj coj. Moss kuj yog tus thawj coj tsim tawm ntawm yim-ib ntu txwv.

Kuv ntes tau nrog Tswb los tham txog yuav ua li cas cov yeeb yam kev hwm rau tus thawj coj David Fincher thiab yuav ua li cas them nws tus cwj pwm sociopathic cuam tshuam nws flipping cov ntawv nyeem.

Simon Thompson: Qee lub sij hawm, kuv tau txais qee qhov hnyav David Fincher vibes los ntawm Ci ntsa Rau Hluas Nkauj. Koj puas tau txais ib qho ntawm qhov ntawd?

Jamie Bell: Muaj ib qho kev txhaj tshuaj tshwj xeeb uas kuv tau txais Fincher vibes los ntawm tshwj xeeb. Nws zoo li Lake Berryessa scene los ntawm Zodiac, uas yog ib tug siv, obviously. Nws yog ib qho kev hwm, nws yog tsab ntawv hlub rau qhov ntawd, tab sis yog tias koj hais qhov no tau muab rau koj Fincher vibes, peb nyob rau qee yam.

Thompson: Qhov no yog lub tswv yim zoo nkauj heev. Nws tsis yog koj qhov nruab nrab tua neeg paub tsis meej, thiab muaj kev pheej hmoo uas tuaj nrog qhov ntawd. Thaum koj nyeem tsab ntawv, lossis yog tias koj nyeem phau ntawv, koj tau kos cov kev sib piv thiab cov ntaub ntawv dab tsi?

Tswb: Nws yog ib lo lus nug nthuav. Nws funny heev vim kuv nyeem tsab ntawv ua ntej, thiab kuv xav tias tsab ntawv los ntawm Silka Luisa zoo heev. Thaum koj nyeem ib yam dab tsi tiav, koj tuaj yeem qhia tau tias koj nyiam, 'Au, peb xav paub ntau ntxiv.' Qhov sib txuas ntawm qhov kawg ntawm thawj ntu yog qhov txaus nyiam raws li lub tswv yim ntawm qhov yuav tshwm sim rau koj li ib tug neeg. Yuav ua li cas yog tias koj lub neej tsis yog qhov koj xav tias nws yog? Yuav ua li cas yog zaj dab neeg uas koj tau hais rau koj tus kheej tsis muaj tseeb? Kuv tsis paub dab tsi kuv yuav muab piv rau, tab sis lub hauv paus conceit thiab sci-fi keeb yog obviously ib tug piv txwv rau yuav ua li cas koj cuam tshuam nrog kev raug mob. Kev raug mob tsis tas yuav xaus nrog kev ua phem lossis kev ua phem; Qhov kev raug mob no ua rau koj nyob ib puag ncig, cuam tshuam rau koj txoj kev sib raug zoo ntawm koj niam, chaw ua haujlwm, menyuam yaus, thiab lwm yam. Nws yog qhov nthuav dav. Peb tab tom qhia zaj dab neeg no nrog cov cuab yeej nthuav no hais txog kev tua neeg tua neeg vim li cas koj ntes tus txiv neej no? Yuav ua li cas koj yuav tau nws thaum kawg? Cov lus nug hauv nruab nrab yog qhov uas yuav ua rau tib neeg saib. Hais txog tus cwj pwm kuv ua si, kuv xav tias peb txhua tus muaj qhov mob siab rau vim li cas tib neeg ua tej yam no.

Thompson: Raws li ib tug neeg ua yeeb yam, koj feem ntau yuav tsum tsim kom muaj kev sib raug zoo, kev sib raug zoo, kev sib raug zoo nrog koj cov hnub qub, tab sis koj tus cwj pwm ntawm no mus los ntawm kev sib raug zoo nrog cov neeg no mus deb heev, qee zaum tig mus rau dime. Ua li cas koj thiaj li tau txoj cai?

Tswb: Nws yog ib qho kev soj ntsuam zoo, thiab kuv xav tias muaj ob peb yam. Yog hais tias lub scene xav kom koj yuav creepy, yog hais tias koj cia li ua creepy, nws yuav tsis ua hauj lwm, yog li ntawd kuv hais tias, 'Zoo, nws yuav tsum nco ntsoov nyob rau hauv ib tug txawv scene tshaj li qhov scene yog.' Yog hais tias qhov scene yog qhov uas kuv nkag mus rau Phillipa Soo tus cwj pwm, ces hauv kuv lub siab, nws zoo li kev sib ntsib ntxim hlub scene, zoo li romantic comedy thiab lub siab lub ntsws tiag tiag. Nyob rau hauv nws lub siab, muaj qee yam ntawm fantasy lub caij mus rau qhov uas lwm tus neeg hauv qhov xwm txheej tab tom ntsib tsis yog dab tsi ntawm nplooj ntawv thiab qhov ntawd cia li ua rau lawv tsis muaj kev ntxhov siab. Raws li tus saib, koj mus, 'Nws nyob qhov twg tam sim no? Qhov no yog dab tsi?' Nws tsis ua raws li cov kev coj noj coj ua niaj hnub no. Ib tug sociopath tsis tuaj raws li ib tug sociopath; lawv yuav ua txhua yam uas tsis yog tam sim no, yog li qhov ntawd yog rau kuv. Nws yog ib txwm hais txog yuav ua li cas kuv mus kiag li unnoticed? Yuav ua li cas kuv xav mus cuag ib tug kom lawv tsis ntshai? Kuv tsis xav tias kuv yog ib tug tshwj xeeb hem neeg, lub sij hawm, yog li ntawd hom kev pab. Kuv muaj ib tug boyishness txog kuv, uas yog pab tau; koj tuaj yeem siv qhov ntawd thiab nkaum hauv qab nws. Kuv hnav kuv lub ris siab heev, yog li ntawd nws zoo li khib thiab ua dag, thiab cov neeg coob yuav ib txwm ua rau kuv lom zem rau kuv lub ris siab. Nws yog tej yam me me li ntawd cia siab tias yuav ua rau tib neeg mus, 'Kuv tsis xav tias kuv yuav saib nws ob zaug ntawm txoj kev.' Txoj kev nws hnav khaub ncaws yog qhov siv tau zoo lossis kev saib xyuas, yog li koj xav tias nws nyob ntawd ua lwm yam. Peb xav txog txhua yam ntawd, tab sis feem ntau nws tau sim ua qhov tsis sib xws ntawm qhov nyob hauv nplooj ntawv.

Thompson: Koj ua si ib tug neeg saib neeg ua ntej hauv Hallam Foe, tab sis nws yog ib hom neeg txawv. Lawv zoo li yin thiab yang.

Tswb: kiag li. Muaj dheev ib tug perverse txaus siab uas kuv xav tias cov cim ob leeg sib koom, tab sis kuv xav tias peb li tib neeg beings kuj yog heev voyeuristic, ntau tshaj peb tej zaum yuav nyiam lees. Tsis yog Fincher nws tus kheej uas tau hais tias peb txhua tus perverts? Muaj ib lub ntsiab lus uas nyob rau hauv peb feem ntau yog ib hom, raws li ib tug tsiaj. Yog tias peb tuaj yeem tawm mus nrog nws, peb yog cov neeg xav paub, thiab kuv yeej xav tias lawv tau sib koom ua ke. Lub pathology, kev yuam kom xav ua kom txaus siab rau nws tus kheej hauv txoj kev ua nruj ua tsiv, yog qhov tseeb tias nws cais nws ntawm koj lossis kuv lossis Hallam Foe, thiab qhov ntawd yog cov lus nug tseem ceeb. Vim li cas tib neeg ua li no? Nws yog dab tsi txog nws uas ua rau nws mus rau qib siab no? Nws yog txhua yam hais txog kev tswj hwm; nws feem ntau yog ib qho kev xav tau los tswj cov khoom thiab tswj hwm.

Thompson: Hais txog kev tswj hwm thiab kev cuam tshuam, Elisabeth yog tus tsim tawm ntawm qhov no, thiab Leonardo DiCaprio yog li ntawd. Kuv paub tias qee tus neeg tsim khoom lag luam tuaj yeem ua tes ntawm tes thaum lwm tus zoo nkauj tes tawm. Qhov xwm txheej ntawm no yog dab tsi?

Tswb: Peb muaj ntau tus tsim tawm ntawm qhov yeeb yam. Peb tau tiv thaiv zoo heev, thiab Apple yeej ib txwm muaj nyob rau hauv cov nqe lus ntawm kev tsim cov yeeb yam thiab txhawb nqa nws. Qhov zoo siab heev ntawm qhov kev paub dhau los no yog thaum koj ua haujlwm tiag tiag, ua homework ntau, xav tias muaj zog heev, thiab vam tias txhua tus ua tib yam thiab txhua tus nyob hauv cov nroj tsuag ua ke. Kuv xav tias zoo li txhua tus tau rub mus rau tib qho kev taw qhia ntawm qhov yeeb yam. Nws yog ib qho yeeb yam hnyav heev nyob rau tib lub sijhawm, tab sis peb tseem muaj peev xwm nrhiav tau qee qhov levity. Peb muaj cov neeg ua yeeb yam zoo nkauj uas yog cov kws tshaj lij tiag tiag thiab tuaj yeem qhib thiab tawm. Hauv ntu peb, muaj qhov xwm txheej hnyav heev hauv lub tsheb ciav hlau nrog Wagner Moura, uas yog qhov zoo heev, thiab peb tau hu nkauj thiab seev cev ntawm kev siv sijhawm. Txhua leej txhua tus muaj peev xwm nrhiav tau lawv me ntsis lightness ntawm no thiab nyob ntawd. Rau qhov tshiab, thaum koj muaj ib yam dab tsi txaus ntshai, koj xav sim koj qhov nyuaj tshaj plaws los ua ib yam dab tsi uas pom tau tias muaj txiaj ntsig, thiab cia siab tias, nrog txhua tus rub mus rau qhov raug, peb tau ua qhov ntawd.

Thompson: Kuv tau tos 11 xyoo rau qhov kev tshwm sim Cov Adventures ntawm Tintin. Kuv ntseeg tias tus thawj coj Peter Jackson tseem txaus siab, tau tham txog nws tseem tshwm sim, thiab muaj ib tsab ntawv banging ncig. Koj puas tau hnov ​​dab tsi txog nws tsis ntev los no?

Tswb: Kuv tsis yog tus kheej, tab sis Peter ib txwm tinkering nrog txhua yam. Nws yog ib tug tinkerer. Kuv tsis paub yog tias koj pom nws cov ntaub ntawv Beatles, tab sis kuv xav tias yog qhov tsis txaus ntseeg kiag li. Nws yog ib qho zoo tshaj plaws uas kuv tau pom hauv TV. Nws yeej ib txwm ua ib yam dab tsi, yog li ntawd yog hais tias lawv hais tias cia peb rov qab ua ke, peb yuav mus ua nws. Nws yuav yog qhov txawv yog tias kuv ua si Tintin ntawm 45, tab sis tseem, thev naus laus zis tso cai rau nws, yog li ntawd zoo.

Ci ntsa Rau Hluas Nkauj Thawj thawj zaug ntawm Apple TV+ hnub Friday, Plaub Hlis 29, 2022.