Tus Thawj Coj Rob Marshall ua kev zoo siab rau Oscar-Winning 'Chicago' Raws li nws puv 20

"Nws tseem zoo li qhov txuj ci tseem ceeb uas nws tau tshwm sim," tus thawj coj lees txim Rob Marshall thaum peb tham txog Chicago thiab ua yeeb yaj kiab suab paj nruag 20 xyoo.

Nws lub vijtsam loj ntawm Broadway classic tsis tsuas yog tshwm sim tab sis mus rau tag nrho $ 306.8 lab tawm tsam $ 45 lab pob nyiaj siv. Nws kuj tseem tau txais ntau yam khoom plig, suav nrog rau Oscars.

Teem nyob rau xyoo 1920s Chicago, nws hnub qub Catherine Zeta-Jones thiab Renée Zellweger ua ob tus neeg sib tw Tuag Row cov neeg raug kaw craving celebrity thiab Richard Gere tus ntxoov ntxoo tsis tau zoo kawg li kws lij choj, Billy Flynn.

Kuv ntes tau nrog Marshall kom paub tias yog vim li cas nws thiaj li yog Hollywood's suab paj nruag ntxhi,' noj kev twv txiaj ntawm Richard Gere cov kav dej thiab nws txoj kev npaj txhij txog Oscars.

Simon Thompson: XNUMX Lab tus kiv cua tos koj rau Webtalk! Kuv pom nws zoo kawg uas Chicago yog kev ua koob tsheej 20 xyoo, thiab tom qab ob xyoo lawm, nws tseem suav hais tias yog tus qauv kub rau cov yeeb yaj kiab tam sim no.

Rob Marshall: XNUMX Lab tus kiv cua tos koj rau Webtalk! Nws funny heev vim thaum kuv pib ua yeeb yaj kiab, kuv yeej tsis xav tias nws yuav muaj lub neej ntev. Nws yog qhov txaus ntshai. Ib txoj hauv kev, nws yog kuv thawj zaj yeeb yaj kiab, thiab kuv tau los ntawm kev ua yeeb yam, thiab kuv nyiam zaj nkauj no heev. Nws yog kuv lub suab paj nruag uas kuv nyiam loj hlob los ua menyuam yaus. Kuv pom thawj ob peb zaug, qhov tseeb, ntawm theem, Fosse's version, thiab hlub nws. kuv directed a production of Chicago hauv Los Angeles nrog Bebe Neuwirth, yog li kuv paub nws intimately. Thaum kuv raug nug kom ua, kuv tau xam phaj los coj cov yeeb yaj kiab ntawm Cia ntiav, thiab kuv hais tias, 'Ua ntej peb hais txog Rent, peb puas tuaj yeem tham txog Chicago?' Nws tau zaum ntawd, thiab nws tsis tau daws. Yuav ua li cas koj ua qhov no nyob rau hauv zaj duab xis? Kuv muaj ib lub tswv yim ntawm yuav ua li cas, uas yog, nyob rau hauv ib tug nutshell, tuav rau lub tswv yim qub ntawm lub suab paj nruag. Tag nrho cov naj npawb yog vaudeville suab paj nruag naj npawb, thiab lawv yuav tsum tau nyob rau ntawm theem. Kuv xav tias cov yeeb yaj kiab yuav tsum tau hais tawm hauv ob qhov sib txawv ntawm qhov tseeb, qhov surreality ntawm theem thiab qhov tseeb hauv Chicago nyob rau hauv lub lig 20s. Cov yeeb yaj kiab yeeb yaj kiab tau loj heev, tab sis cov yeeb yaj kiab ua yeeb yaj kiab tau tuag. Thaum peb tab tom pib, kuv nco qab xav tias, 'Tsis muaj leej twg yuav mus saib zaj yeeb yaj kiab no, tab sis peb yuav ua kom tiav raws li qhov ua tau.' Qhov ntawd yog kuv txoj kev npaj, yog li nws zoo nkauj uas nws tau kav ntev thiab hlub, yog li kuv hais ua tsaug rau qhov ntawd. Nws tseem zoo li ib qho txuj ci tseem ceeb uas nws tshwm sim tiag tiag.

Thompson: Puas muaj leej twg sim thiab txwv tsis pub koj ua nws? Raws li koj hais, lawv tawm ntawm kev zam, thiab cov suab paj nruag yog ib qho nyuaj tshaj plaws muag hauv kev lag luam yeeb yaj kiab.

Marshall: Koj hais yog 100 feem pua. Lawv yog ib qho nyuaj tshaj plaws kom tau txais txoj cai, thiab kuv tau siv tag nrho kuv txoj haujlwm ua lawv. Koj nyob nraum lus ntawm txoj kab zoo ntawm kev ua ib tug Saturday Night Live kos duab txhua lub sijhawm (laughs). Peb txhua tus tau mus ua yeeb yaj kiab uas lawv pib hu nkauj, thiab nws xav tias txaj muag me ntsis, zoo li, 'Vim li cas lawv hu nkauj?' Nws xav tias tsis tau khwv tau, weird, thiab ua dag, yog li nws yog ib hom muag heev. Koj yuav tsum muaj lub tswv yim zoo, yog li peb nkag siab thiab pom tseeb vim li cas lawv thiaj hu nkauj. Nws yuav tsum tau khwv tau thiab seamless. Kuv paub tias kuv yog vwm coj nws mus, tab sis kuv xav tias tej zaum kuv yuav muaj txoj hauv kev los ua kom nws ua haujlwm zoo, uas yog qhov kuv tuav rau.

Thompson: Chicago mus yeej rau Oscars. Koj puas xav txog koj tus kheej Hollywood "suab nkauj ntxhi" vim tias ntau lwm tus thawj coj tau sim thiab ua tsis tiav, thiab koj tseem ntaus lub cim?

Marshall: (Laughs) Kuv tsis paub. Kuv zoo siab me ntsis tias tej zaum peb thawb lub qhov rooj qhib rau ntau cov suab paj nruag ua tiav. Qhov tseeb tias nws tau ua tiav thiab nws ua haujlwm tau tso cai rau ntau lub suab paj nruag ntau xyoo ua tiav, uas yog qhov zoo heev. Lawv yog cov mos mos thiab yuav tsum tau saib xyuas ntau heev.

Thompson: Thaum twg koj paub tias nws ua haujlwm? Puas yog qhov kev kuaj xyuas? Puas yog qhov qhib hnub so? Kuv xav tias koj tau ntxhov siab me ntsis uas qhib hnub so?

Marshall: Kuv nco qab zoo li zaj yeeb yaj kiab uas sawv cev rau daim no zoo nkauj, tab sis kuv tsis muaj lub tswv yim tias nws yuav tau txais. Qhov tseeb, Miramax cov thawj coj hais tias, 'Peb yuav tsum sib tham txog qhov khoom plig,' thiab kuv hais tias, 'Rau qhov yeeb yaj kiab dab tsi?' Kuv tsis paub tias lawv tab tom tham txog Chicago. Nws yog qhov kub hnyiab, kuv yuav tsum ua siab ncaj. Peb tsuas yog debut hauv LA thiab New York thaum qhib lub lis piam. Nws tsuas yog ob peb lub tsev ua yeeb yam hauv txhua qhov, thiab dab tsi yog vwm txog qhov ntawd yog muaj kab nyob ib ncig ntawm lub block vim txhua tus xav pom nws. Tam sim no nws yog hnub thiab hnub thiab qhib txhua qhov chaw, tab sis tsim kom muaj kev zoo siab thiab lo lus ntawm lub qhov ncauj, pab ua yeeb yaj kiab tiag tiag. Peb tsis qhib dav kom txog rau thaum Lub Ib Hlis tom qab txhua qhov kev xaiv tsa tau tawm, yog li nws vwm. Kuv xav tias, 'Wow. Okay.' Kuv nco qab Richard Gere hais tias, thaum peb tab tom ua lub rooj sib tham hauv London, 'Yog li koj paub, Rob, nws tsis yog ib txwm zoo li no. Kev txais tos peb tau txais txawv ntawm qhov no feem ntau mus li cas.' Kuv yog tus tshiab rau nws uas kuv tsis paub.

Thompson: Kuv nco qab tias zoo li kuv nyob thiab ua haujlwm hauv London thaum lub sijhawm thiab nyob ntawm qhov xovxwm hu.

Marshall: Koj luag nyav? Wow. Kuv nco tau zoo heev. Nws nyob ntawm Claridge's.

Thompson: Catherine Zeta-Jones thiab kuv ob leeg los ntawm Swansea hauv South Wales, yog li peb txoj kev yav dhau los tau hla ob peb zaug rov qab los tsev.

Marshall: Auj, kuv hlub nws. Kuv tsis muaj tswv yim.

Thompson: Ob leeg Catherine thiab Renée Zellweger tau caij siab thaum lub sijhawm. Lawv ua tau zoo heev thiab ntsia qhov no. Richard tau ua suab paj nruag tab sis tsis paub tias yog ib tug txiv neej hu nkauj thiab seev cev. Qhia rau kuv txog cov kev sib tham uas koj tau nrog nws. Puas yog nws tsis txaus ntseeg? Qee tus neeg tuaj yeem rov qab los ntawm qhov ua yuam kev, tab sis cov txiv neej uas tsis xa feem ntau tsis tuaj yeem ua neej nyob ntawd.

Marshall: Muaj tseeb tiag. Nws yog ib qho kev nthuav dav heev rau kuv vim Richard nyiam heev rau tus neeg ntawd. Nws xav paub kuv yog leej twg thiab yog nws yuav ua raws li kuv. Qhov tsuas yog qhov kuv paub tias Richard tau ua yog hu nkauj thiab ua si me ntsis hauv Paj Rwb Club, tab sis kuv paub tias nws yog suab paj nruag. Kuv tau hnov ​​tias nws ua si Danny Zuko hauv Roj nyob rau London, yog li kuv paub tias nws muaj suab paj nruag nyob rau hauv nws qhov chaw. Tab sis koj paub dab tsi? Kuv xav tias zoo li nws zoo siab rau nws thiab muaj kev pheej hmoo, tab sis nws xav paub kuv yog leej twg. Kuv nco qab tias peb tau ntsib noj su hauv plawv nroog, thiab muaj qee cov lus nug txog zaj duab xis, kuv coj, thiab Billy Flynn vim nws xav paub txog kuv. Peb ntaus nws tam sim ntawd. Nws yog ib tug neeg sov siab, siab dawb siab zoo. Kuv tsis tau hnov ​​nws hu nkauj, yog li ntawd peb lub studio uas peb tab tom npaj zaj duab xis nyob ze, thiab kuv xav tias, 'Vim li cas koj tsis tuaj rau lub studio?' Nws hais tias, 'Kuv paub tias koj tab tom ua; koj tab tom sim kom kuv hu nkauj, tab sis kuv tsis mus,' thiab kuv zoo li, 'Koj hais yog lawm.' Kuv tau pheej hmoo. Kuv yeej tsis tau hnov ​​nws hu nkauj, tiam sis kuv tsuas paub tias nws yog nws. Kuv xav tias nws mob siab rau thiab kev zoo siab, thiab qhov ntawd mus ntev. Thaum kuv ua yeeb yaj kiab, kuv qhov kev cia siab yog tias kuv tsis tas yuav txiav txim siab; qhov kev txiav txim siab yog ua rau kuv vim hais tias tus actor thov lub luag hauj lwm thiab hais tias, 'Qhov no yog kuv.' Kuv xav li ntawd nrog nws.

Thompson: Koj puas muaj Plan B yog tias Richard hu tsis tau zoo raws li koj xav tau, Rob?

Marshall: (Laughs) Kuv nyiam ua haujlwm nrog cov neeg ua yeeb yam tshiab rau cov nkauj. kuv yeej ua. Lawv mus cuag nws los ntawm lwm qhov chaw. Lawv tsis yog los ntawm qhov chaw suab tab sis qhov chaw ua cim. Feem ntau ntawm kuv nyiam ua yeeb yam hauv zaj duab xis thiab theem yog Rex Harrison tus uas tsis yog neeg hu nkauj tiag tiag, zoo li hauv Kuv Fair poj niam, qhov twg lawv hais-hu nkauj, lossis Carol Channing hauv Nyob zoo, Dolly! los yog Zero Mostel hauv Fiddler rau saum ru tsev. Cov kev ua yeeb yam zoo kawg no yog cov neeg ua yeeb yam qhia lawv tus kheej los ntawm lawv cov nkauj ntawm ib zaj nkauj. Richard tsis tas yuav muaj lub suab zoo. Qhov no tsis yog American Idol, thiab qhov ntawd yog ib yam uas ploj lawm tam sim no. Muaj ntau tus neeg hu nkauj hais-unquote tab tom sim ua rau peb zoo siab nrog lub gymnastics ntawm lawv lub suab, tab sis leej twg mob siab rau? Yog hais tias koj tsis yog ib tug neeg, kuv tsis hnov ​​dab tsi; nyob qhov twg? Cov neeg uas coj tus cwj pwm los ntawm kev hu nkauj nyob qhov twg? Qhov ntawd yog qhov kuv txhawj txog. Thaum ib tug neeg txav kuv, ib yam dab tsi uas tso tseg tsis pom kev txias, nws yog vim qhov kev xav tias tus neeg muaj raws li lawv tab tom hu nkauj, tsis yog lub suab.

Thompson: Peb kov ntawm qhov tseeb tias Chicago mus yeej rau Oscars. Qhov ntawd yog koj thawj qhov kev paub nyob rau ntawd. Koj zaj yeeb yaj kiab tom ntej no tau ua yeeb yam Michelle Yeoh, thiab xyoo no yog, amazingly, nws thawj qhov kev paub ntawm Oscars. Koj puas tau dhau cov lus qhia thawj zaug txog kev caij tsheb ciav hlau li cas?

Marshall: Nws zoo nkauj heev, zoo nkauj, thiab muaj kuab heev, siab dav, siab zoo, tus poj niam zoo nkauj uas kuv nyiam ua haujlwm nrog thiab tau txuas ntxiv paub ntau xyoo. Michelle tau muaj txoj haujlwm zoo kawg no, thiab nws lom zem tias nws tsuas yog tom qab hauv lub neej uas nws tau lees paub txog txoj haujlwm no. Kuv yeej ib txwm paub nws. Ntawm no yog qhov khoom; nws npaj txhij. Nws yog amazing heev thaum ib tug neeg hnav kev vam meej zoo nkauj, thiab nws hnav nws zoo heev. Thaum nws tshwm sim ntxov, ntau tus neeg tsis paub yuav ua li cas nrog nws. Michelle paub tias qhov no yog lub sijhawm zoo nkauj rau nws, tab sis nws paub tias tom qab ntawd nws yog txoj haujlwm tom ntej, thiab nws yog ib feem ntawm txoj haujlwm. Kuv zoo siab heev uas tau los rau tus neeg zoo, tus neeg kuv hlub tiag tiag thiab nyiam ua haujlwm nrog.

Thompson: Peb tab tom tham txog qhov tseeb tias 20 xyoo dhau los, muaj qhov hloov pauv ntawm cov haujlwm zoo li no. Koj qhov project tshiab, uas peb tab tom pom xyoo no, yog lwm qhov kev hloov pauv zoo, Tus me Mermaid.

Marshall: Dab tsi yog qhov nthuav rau kuv yog tias kuv nco tau meej heev thaum lub xeem Disney version tawm hauv 1989. Nws yog qhov rov tshwm sim ntawm cov suab paj nruag hauv daim ntawv animated hauv txoj kev uas kuv xav. Chicago yog ib qho resurgence rau live-action musicals. Kuv xav tias muaj kev sib raug zoo rau nws vim qhov ntawd. Kuv nco qab tias kuv nyob hauv lub zej zog Broadway thaum lub sijhawm, thiab txhua tus zoo siab heev Tus me Mermaid, no Broadway-style suab paj nruag uas tsis tau ua tiav hauv cov yeeb yaj kiab animated. Nws zoo siab heev uas tau pom qhov ntawd tshwm sim. Ntawm chav kawm, nws spawned Kev zoo nkauj thiab cov tsiaj nyaum, Aladdin, thiab tag nrho cov nthwv dej ntawm cov yeeb yaj kiab. Tab sis koj nyob nraum kiag li yog hais txog lub surprise. Thaum kuv hais lus rau cov hnub nyoog 30 lossis 40 xyoo, uas loj hlob nrog VHS daim kab xev hauv lub thawv loj loj, lawv yuav tsum tau saib nws ntau lab zaug li menyuam yaus. Tus me Mermaid yog tus zov menyuam rau ntau tus menyuam no; lawv paub nws sab hauv thiab tawm thiab hlub nws. Nws txhais tau ntau heev rau lawv nyob rau hauv tib txoj kev tob uas tus thawj Mary Poppins resonated rau kuv. Qhov ntawd yog thawj zaj yeeb yaj kiab uas kuv pom thaum yau. Nws vwm ntau npaum li cas kuv tau hais tias, 'Zoo, Kuv tabtom ua haujlwm ntawm Tus Me Me Me,' thiab tib neeg hais tias, 'Auj, qhov ntawd yog qhov kuv nyiam.' Nws tsuas yog ya tawm ntawm tib neeg lub qhov ncauj. Yog vim li cas kuv thiaj li tau ceev faj txij thaum pib nrog qhov no, kho nws nrog kev saib xyuas ntau thiab hwm. Ntawm chav kawm, nws yog ib tug reimagined version, tab sis nws tuav rau cov pob txha tseem ceeb ntawm qhov nws yog. Peb kuj muaj cov khoom tshiab los ntawm Alan Menken thiab Lin-Manuel Miranda.

Thompson: Lawv ob leeg zoo nkauj, zoo nkauj ntseeg tau.

Marshall: (Laughs) Puas yog? Zoo siab tau pom qhov koj paub, tab sis nws yog qhov loj dua, qhov tob dua, tej zaum muaj kev xav ntau dua. Nws yog ib zaj yeeb yaj kiab zoo nkauj. Kuv zoo siab heev rau cov neeg pom nws.

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